Quitters Are Winners

Leave The Past Behind To Create Your Future

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Introduction And Background

In this episode, I get to talk to somebody who also started her career as an artist but found that she is a creator. She didn’t tie herself to one particular way of creating and now has moved from fabric and clothing design to being an expert Gyrotonic Instructor. What’s interesting about this conversation is that she found herself limited by some of the rules that were out there in that particular community. What’s interesting is to hear how she found her way to creating her practice and her own business, and had that grow even more once she left something behind. Keep reading, and I’ll see you on the other side.  

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Welcome to the Art of Transformation. I’m here with Domini, my old friend. How are you doing, Domini?

I’m well, Marc. How are you? 

I’m good. We’re here because you clocked some stuff of mine on social media a while ago, and we’re like, “I think we might have something in common.” We met in the early 2000, I think, wasn’t it? 

Yes. It was early aughts. Do you ever look back at your adult life and think, “My adult life is old enough to go to college?” 

I go to jiu-jitsu, as everybody here knows, because I talk about it all the time. Some of the people I train with are younger than my friends. We probably met when I was in art school, and after art school, I worked in tech, video games, electronic arts, and stuff like that. I left and I went on this whole journey of illustration and fine art and now past few years focused on my coaching. You reached out and said, “I think we might have had a similar journey.” When we met, I only knew you as a clothing designer. I’d love for you just to give us a little background. Give us the high level from there because it’s such an interesting shift. 

Yes, I would love to, and I guess the way that I can coalesce in the context of our conversation is by using my version of the story you just told. When I met you, what I knew of you was that we were both involved in creating artistic experiences that went along with large dance parties and communal living and warehouse living in San Francisco. We had similar interests and what I noted the most about you was your desire to create these multilevel artistic experiences for people.

I didn’t know too much about your work, and you knew me as a clothing designer because, at that point, I also taught movement. We’ll just present that right now. That was taking the backstage as far as what I was presenting to the world, and I was doing a lot of upcycling. I had a lot I wanted to say politically with my clothing, and I was creating a community about that. That’s where our paths intersected.

San Francisco evolved, and you and I both moved away probably at similar times and began to move into our married lives and our kid lives, which was also a career shift. What I saw of you then was your transition into fine art as you went to the East Coast. You and I did a trade. You had me do some clothing for Chloe when she was pregnant. I think Artemis was that one. Our kids are also basically the same ages. We just got them from the same pack.

I have this beautiful portrait that you did of my family in exchange, and it’s still hanging on our wall. COVID happens, and there’s this chapter that took 25 years in just a few months. That was when I began to notice a real shift in your presence on social media. I said, “Marc is now becoming a life coach.” For me, it felt like, “What happened?”

It is because you were vibrant and talented as I had known you as an artist that I was confused as to why that shift would happen. I followed you for a while and then began to notice these glimmers. I finally reached out and said, “Can we have a coffee?” I would love to check in and fill in the blanks as far as how I knew you to where you are now. 

I like the way you put that. When I met you, the thing that you were putting out into the world, something else was taking a back seat. That was very true for me as well. I had done a lot of different personal growth things at the time. As you mentioned, I was living in a community, learning a lot about working with teams, essentially. 

If anybody here is reading this and has ever been to Burning Man, you’re working with big teams, asking them to do a ton of work and not paying them. If you want good leadership, find good leaders who know how to do that. What’s funny is that coaching work was something that I also discovered in San Francisco. 

That was the first time that I was introduced to the idea of someone being a coach or doing that work. I got to see that work firsthand with those different workshops and the men’s circle that I was in, which I’m still a part of, but which I was active for about four years before I left. I moved to the East Coast and had this whole other life. Then, COVID hit, and this old love bubbled up again. 

Creative Passions And Movement Teaching

Yes, and the parallel with my life there, especially with that COVID piece, I had always had dueling passions. I loved to move and teach movement. I love teaching in and of itself, except for teaching sewing. I don’t like teaching sewing. I’m far too quick with it. It’s like I don’t want to teach sketching or stream of consciousness. 

Then, there was the sewing part, which gave me deep joy and being raised at the time when we were raised, where excelling was such a focus in the context of defining success. How many times were you told growing up that myth of, “You have to pick one thing and focus on it?” “You can’t just be good at everything. You have to narrow it out.” 

That’s all we ever saw. My dad was a pediatrician. He went to med school, did one thing, stopped doing it full-time, and now he’s retired. There was no other dueling passion. I like that phrase because I think a lot of people, entrepreneurs, and creatives can resonate with the idea that I have all these different things I want to do. Maybe I don’t know where to start, or I don’t know how to do all of them well. Is that something that you also struggle with or struggled with? 

I did because I was fed that narrative and yet for me, as someone who was encouragingly dancing to the beat of my drum for the longest time, and thanks to some lucky circumstances, just as far as how I was born and had opportunities to pursue my artistic career, I was never told that I had to fit someone else’s norms. However, the coaching as far as if you want to be X, Y, and Z, you have to narrow down and focus on all of that. The image that comes to my head is Michael J. Fox on that water, like in The Secret Of My Success.

That Secret Of My Success scene in the elevator, yes. 

Exactly. Yes, I was conflicted because I thought I was supposed to want success in that context and that I was somehow doing something wrong by either dancing ballet, teaching yoga, and eventually teaching the Gyrotonic method. Then, if I focus full time on that, I would be sewing all night or focusing on sewing and putting my movement practice to a couple of hours in the afternoons that was just for me. Neither one of those felt right. 

Navigating False Narratives Of Success

Finally, I read this meme online, Souls Rules for Life, and the first one is, “You will get one body. It is the only body you have. There are no returns and no exchanges. You’re going to live your life through it.” I said, “This is it.” I help people love living life in their bodies. I just do it in a few ways. Finding that unifying mission statement that allowed me to fill in my soul’s purpose and let me do it in the ways that I do was just liberating. 

You get one body, no returns, no exchanges. How you live through it is your choice, so why not choose to love living in it?

It was healing and liberating, and finally, I had a unifying statement that allowed me to let go of, I believe, this false narrative. There are two falsehoods there. 1) That extreme success in one niche is what one should want, and 2) That you can’t have success if you’re doing more than one thing. I had feet in both worlds for a while because I had this unifying mission statement. 

Finding a unifying mission that aligns with your soul’s purpose is both healing and liberating. It’s not about picking one thing, but about embracing all that you love.

It makes me think about the COVID shift. I think COVID was very difficult for a lot of us in a lot of different ways. I’d love to hear about your experience, it was the second year in 2021 was a very dark time for me for various reasons, very depressed, but it was also an opportunity. Even in that very sad phase, I was able to see what I have right now, and I was fortunate to have some time. I can think about what matters to me, and I can start to create that unifying statement in a way. 

I’d done a lot of different things. I was the executive director of a nonprofit, I had an art career, I’d just shown at Scope Fair in Miami, and all these great things. How do they all fit together? That was what I got to think about because what I was doing without this back burner thing that I was doing is that I was coaching people. I was teaching and working with other artists, I had created these projects, and it was all to pull people up because that is what lights me up. 

It’s great to sell a piece of art and get the gig and do the thing, but what I discovered lit me up was when I can share that with someone else and it gets them to that next level. It wasn’t just teaching. I was teaching for a long time, but it was that coaching piece because what I found was in the teaching, you can teach someone how to sew what you acknowledge you do not want to do, but you can teach someone to move, you can teach someone to do these different things. 

What I find interesting is that in the process of that, over weeks or months, you discover what’s getting in the way of sinking into that practice. That’s where I found a lot of joy, and that is how I ended up doing this, but I’m curious about your experience with COVID because I know it was also a shift for you. 

Success isn’t just about focusing on one thing. Sometimes, true fulfillment comes from letting your passions coexist and complement each other.

The Impact Of COVID-19 On Personal And Professional Life

I had a very unique experience during COVID because the day we went into quarantine was the day my world opened up. Back history, in the chapter following when we knew each other, we were young in San Francisco, and I came down here. I focused heavily on growing my career as a Gyrotonic master trainer. Becoming an educator in a system, you can see the machine, the complicated lovely thing behind me. This is a wonderful system.

I see that in social media and your videos. You have much great stuff out there. We’ll post links in the show notes. 

Thank you. Up until that moment the quarantine hit, the Gyrotonic system did not allow it to be taught online. To even post a social media video, technically, you were supposed to send all of your videos to headquarters first to have them approved, and you couldn’t have more than 30 seconds of anyone to exercise. That was hard for me because I had a resonance inside. 

When the world gives you information and it’s like the universe tells you something, you’ll say, “Alright, this is what we’re going to do.” The universe told me, “You are supposed to teach online. You’re supposed to teach breathwork online, and that is what you’re going to do to help heal the world.” That was one of those moments when I was on a walk, sometimes the universe just dropped a telegram, and there was that. That happened in 2015, and I was so conflicted because I teach many different disciplines.

Did you start your online practice in 2015? 

I was present online before that, and yes, by 2016, I had found a way to start teaching online, but my conflict was the system that I consider to be the foundation for my approach to movement was not allowing me to put any of their content, anything related to them online. I’m not someone to go behind anyone’s back. I’m a terrible liar. I usually ask for forgiveness, not permission. That’s a different conversation. 

I got pregnant with my second child, and I was using breathwork in the Gyrotonic system to find fluidity in my body. The videos I was posting were resonant, and people were getting excited about them. I said that I was just going to post my stuff, and when they told me to take it down, I’d take it down. This started getting me in a lot of trouble with a system that likes to control its things and has a different view of what the Internet and what exposure means for the protection of their system. 

I was then in conflict with that, and that was an ongoing narrative. All I had wanted was to share my work online to make it available to people globally, both for free and paid in different programs, but my soul had this vision, and I wasn’t allowed to. The day we went into quarantine was the day that the Gyrotonic system had to finally say, “Okay. Fine. You can teach this online.” 

At this moment, where the rest of my community had been trained by their family structure, their business family structure to view online as something scary that was foreign, and also that I was an enemy, all of a sudden, I had all these skills that I could share with my teacher community and bring this stuff that I had desperately wanted to bring into view. 

I burst forward the same day that we had to stay home. My life, those first few months, I opened up a virtual studio. All my classes were free or by donation for about 3 months, and I was teaching 10 classes a week and everything I’d ever wanted to share. I said, “This is my investment in whatever future I’m supposed to have. This happens now.” That was the shift.

One more thing, and then I want to hear all the thoughts that I see in you. I think that both you and I share a desire to have an impact, but for us, success in our lives has to do with how many people we have managed to positively impact in the world. When I was doing fashion shows, I mass-produced many things from my own hands. You’ve seen how quickly I sew. There were some fun nights. 

You can’t talk about all of those nights, but yes, there are some fun nights.

Shifting Career Focus To Teaching Online

Yes, somewhat about the grand building there, but back to this, I felt like I could have more impact from my sewing because I was presenting shows and the clothing was in many stores and didn’t have a meaning that is conveyed beyond words all that. All of a sudden, there was this shift where I was teaching classes to 65 to 100 people all around the world. 

I heard from them that they were using what I taught them to their students and that it was creating a positive impact for them. I fundamentally believe that when we are good in our bodies, when our nervous systems aren’t giving us signals of pain, we’re more able to be present, patient, and have a peaceful, creative relationship with the world as opposed to an antagonistic relationship with the world. At that point, there was like a never looking back. My positive impact on this world will be stronger if I focus on this as my career. 

Something that I get asked a lot that I’m curious about with you too is, with a shift like that, you had spent a decade or more working towards your purpose, working towards your mission, and creating your impact through one particular art form, and you had your movement in the background. Then, there was this shift where you maybe took over a couple of years, but you were all in on this. People ask me about my art now that I’m doing this work. This is the question that I get asked, and I’ll ask you, “Do you feel like there’s a loss of some creative energy?” “Do you feel like you gave up?

I think people are far too afraid of me to ask me if I ever feel like I gave up. They might think it. No. Absolutely not. That comes out of a container, and I cannot be contained, and I don’t do well with being told what to do. Thank goodness I found a way to become self-employed. Maybe I would have learned the skills required for compromise, but I take a lot of cues from the information. Did you read my recent newsletter about being stuck on a boat for a week?

I don’t think I found that one. I was just on vacation for two weeks. I’m behind on the newsletter. 

Alright. No problem. Again, I’m going to try to stay on topic. It’s hard with you because you just light up all these creative pathways. Naturally, your energy does. Extract it. You can put my name on it.

That testimonial is out there. I think that we are both grown up enough and creative enough to know that all these twists and turns are not failures but opportunities to learn, hone in more deeply on our purpose, and make moves that are more and more in alignment. There’s the question of feeling like maybe you left something behind. In the same way, almost as you were doing your sewing work, you had this other movement thing that was, as you said, a back burner. How do you feel about that creative modality now that you’re all in or mostly all in on this other work? 

You become what you do. If I wanted to sew, my sewing studio still exists. It’s the same studio where I go, and I do all of my video editing, all of my writing, and all of the back-end work that allows me to create an online container for learning. If I go into my studio and physically, I find myself wanting to sew or go to the fabric, I will. Unless there’s a class deadline or something and I don’t. I do that once a year.

When the seasons change and the sun goes away. I spend about a month in my studio crying, drinking wine, listening to podcasts, and sewing. There’s one collection that happens a year and it pays for Christmas. One year, I called it the Blood, Sweaters, and Tears Collection. There’s always something. It’s nice to know that I have a following for the clothes.

 I’m sure every often, I’ll get emails from people asking if I make the pants, and my answer is, maybe later. Join my mailing list. They’ll be the first to know. If I didn’t feel satisfied with what I did, then I would be sewing. It surprised me that editing my videos, creating the background images, coming up with class concepts, and writing fulfilled me creatively as much as sewing did. 

I feel the same way. People ask me about that, and the shortest answer I know is that I feel like I’m doing the most creative work of my life right now. I do have all these dueling like you. I love getting into new tech, and we spent probably 10 minutes before this call talking about video editors and transcript editors and geeking out on that. Art and also making clothes.

My daughter is just like art. I feel like this too. She just had this idea. I don’t know what she was doing over in the corner, and then I said, “It’s bedtime.” She said, “Daddy, come look.”She’d taken a bucket, pasted a whole bunch of stuff on it, and turned it into a little cat’s house. She also made a cat out of a crumpled-up ball of paper, and there was a water slide into a ball pit. 

There was no, “What’s the point of that?” because it was the process that brought her joy. From there, I think in many cases, I almost figure it out but more salient. I was talking to somebody who’s in my Unleash Creativity Membership, and when I met her, I just reached out to her on Facebook because her thing had popped up on my feed. 

I think we may have been friends through some art community, I don’t know her, but she was having this question, “Am I an artist if I’m not making art?” She was a new mom and had all those struggles, which you and I both know. I reached out and said, “Do you want to talk?” We ended up having a chat and she ended up joining our program. 

Six months later, she launched her brand, and she made more art than ever. She was frustrated, tired and sad at work. Now, she’s happy and sees how all of those skills she can use together in this new way. I have a computer science degree, which I think I’ve mentioned, but people don’t know because they see me as an artist. 

That was before, then, there was art, and then there were all these other things. Now, with coaching, I get to do all of it. I get to work with different creatives. I get to do the coaching conversations. I get to play with different tech as we’re doing now. I do. I feel like I’m doing the most creative work of my life. I think back to something you said at the very beginning. It pushes against the idea that there’s a right way to do anything.

An analogy that came up to me just in the last paragraph of what you were sharing, it’s like we are still making art. Art is a creative conversation, but when you’re teaching, the raw materials are your students, and it’s immutable and changing form. There is so much of this that’s going on in its best form. It is very honest. Sure. We need a teaching structure to have a framework, but it doesn’t mean that you’re originally just parroting words. 

Ideally, it’s doing this from where you are and where your student is, and we are creating powerful art, creating creativity and transformation with that, but it’s not like it’s only coming from the bucket and the water slide. I’m talking about the cat things here. It’s like it’s coming from changing elements, “What is this? That could be a water slide.” There’s a conversation on both sides that feels very equal in its contribution.

Yes, you mentioned that earlier about learning from your students. Say more about that creative conversation that you’re creating with your students. 

It took some time to settle into what it is to teach on Zoom primarily because before then, it was just watching prerecorded videos where someone comes as they make the statement and they do the class. I didn’t see a space for allowing that to unfold naturally, but now that I’ve found this rhythm and am checking in with my students, 

Letting go of this idea, I had to market each class with a specific goal. Gyrotonic for back pain. Now, for neurological stability, you’re just keeping one focus, and those are great for a teacher training program, but now, when I offer my workshops, I’ll give a general idea. We are going to work on liberating the upper body and its connection with the abdominals. 

We’re going to be working with this particular methodology, starting with, “Students, what are your thoughts?” “What are you struggling with?” Maybe even send an email out to people who register saying, “Hit me up early. Send me emails. I’m going to use this to build class.” Even afterward, offering extended access with full access to me and used their questions to help me make video responses that I then put on social media.

Learning from students’ questions and observations. I’m sure you’re going to have a similar story or a similar response when I describe this. Someone will start to tell me about their bodies and about what they’re dealing with now. Usually, that’s how I start every session, be it a group class or a private client coming to my studio, “Tell me about your body.” They say, “What do you want to know?”

I’ll say, “Start in the middle and stab wildly outwards.” They just start telling me about what they’re feeling or thinking, and my mind starts getting pictures of what their body might want to do. For me, it’s not a word response. It’s a visual response, like a kinesthetic response to my body, and then I’ll say, “Hang on a second. Let me try what your energy body is doing.” I’ll try whatever exercises in my mind. We begin to understand why that person needs to go there. 

When you were saying that, I went in a different direction, which is just that it’s such a win-win way to create a course. When I have people join our course and our membership, I do. I meet with a lot of them as much as I can, communicate with them over email or some messaging, and find out what is it that you’re up against. What is it that you want? 

In the case of our creative group, “Who do you want to be in the world?” “Who do you want to be as an artist?” “Who do you want to be as a creator, a writer, or a dancer?” I don’t know how to put this, but they end up giving me the content that I need to present back in a lot of ways. Sometimes, they have questions and I don’t have answers, but I’m excited to go find it. 

You and I both know, I think, that when you’re in the teaching or coaching world, you’re immersed. I’m sure you write about it in your newsletter and put out your videos, but you’re also reading about stuff, looking at other videos, looking at other teachers, and constantly filling that library. What I get from you is that when someone comes to you, you have a wealth of tools that you can use to create a container that is specific to them, which is something that I like to do. 

You’ve mentioned, I don’t know specifically, but your course or your membership or things like that are ongoing opportunities to tailor the teachings that you have or the guidance that you give to that specific person, which is just light years away from where things were however many years ago when you couldn’t download a video or whatever. 

Yes, 100% and to get the additional feedback from your students, that also is feedback about how the world is evolving and to use that as an opportunity to continually be representing the same truth, but that’s more current for wherever we’re feeling at that time. Also, allowing ourselves to be mutable and change. Just because we’re presenting something that six months ago was one way doesn’t mean that’s wrong. 

It means it was right for where we were in the world at that time, and it’s still probably equally valid, but also things can be a different way. There’s this beauty in when someone asks you something directly, and in that moment, you don’t know. I’ve struggled with this too. When you respond honestly and teach class, how many 45 minutes later have you been where you say, “My god. This is the answer to the question. Thank you very much.” 

In 45 minutes or 5 minutes, yes. I was doing the monthly call with our group and I said, “Here are a series of questions. I’m going to have you all answer them. We’re going to do some breakout rooms.” This one guy who is very successful with his art, he’s got a great job. All these other things, he’s doing fine, but he’s also the most chill person I’ve ever met, truly.

I’ve never seen anything get under his skin, and he’s had all the same things happen to him, and that’s happened to all of us. The health stuff for him was like, “We’ve all dealt with these things.” He just has this attitude of, “Okay, that’s what’s happening. What are we going to do now?” He’s very chill. I gave this exercise and he said, “I don’t feel like I have the language of the question. It doesn’t make sense to me.” “I don’t have that same block, that same problem, or that same mindset.” 

We have to improve. I’ve now gone back to my materials and changed them to improve the question to be more specific and more general in some ways, thanks to his feedback. The great comedian, Josh Gondelman, said, “These teachers who say that they learn as much from their students, I think you’re bad teachers. You should know a lot more than your students.” 

Obviously, It was a joke, but it gets me to the point of the importance of truly listening and being willing and open to make those changes as a teacher, entrepreneur, or a leader in your space. How have you done that even in the last, say, four years with what you’ve been doing? Since Gyrotonics opened up online for you, how have you listened and made changes that have served your communities? 

I think a lot of it has been to let go of the defensiveness, of the need to defend my position. The word that comes up for me a lot is mutable. There may be a better word out there for what I’m discovering, but that malleable softness to hear feedback if people said that class was fast or I didn’t get that. As opposed to trying to defend my position, to let those responses in my mind come up and to see that. 

One of the benefits of being a teacher is personal growth because you see your reflection in your students as much as they seek and see their reflection in you and your classes. We find more aspects of ourselves when we react to feedback. There was that piece to let there be a give and a take when students would ask me a question.

By the way, I have now stepped down as a Gyrotonic Master Trainer to advocate for the system from the positions that I hold. They have their way of wanting to state the language around movement and also their perspectives on how it works in their roles. I’m outside of those boxes now. I thoroughly advocate for the system, but it’s in a way that doesn’t rub them very right.

I had to move away from an official position as an educator for that system and just maintain my license to teach from my perspective. It was scary letting the title go because I had worked hard for that title. That title matters a lot in this tiny niche of exercise where most people don’t even know what this machine is. 

I dropped it off for a while, and then now I’m a former Gyrotonic Master Trainer. This headquarters themselves are no longer feeling like I might be misrepresenting myself from the educational authority that they bestow upon me. I said, “I’m just out there from my perspective.” You see this machine, the rest of my room has, yoga truckies, apparatus, and then, vibration equipment, and then, other things that I like to build. 

All of those get thrown in the mix. My teacher training program is now called Proprio Synthesis, and it’s designed for multidisciplinary instructors who want to be able to teach from their own body of knowledge and devise solutions for their clients that are unique to their clients. This does not come from some other protocol but from principles of movement that we find as we move through all the things that speak to us. 

That softening has allowed me to learn most and the thing that teaches me the most is when a student says, “I don’t get this.” “I don’t understand.” “Can you say it a different way?” At first, you’ll react, “You’re wrong.” I’m defensive or at least in my head for 30 seconds, but even as I begin to speak it back, I see where I could refine this. How can we become more inclusive in our teaching? 

One of my friends and colleague, Ericson Proper, turned me on to a quote that he told me, and it stuck with me, “Everything is your teacher if you’re paying attention.” It goes with me and the members of my group or my students. It goes with me and my kids. It’s a balance between holding that space, your expertise, what it is that you want to do, and what people need. The kid’s example is great. They constantly think that they need things or want things. My daughter very much wanted a bunch of candy this morning before going off to camp, but I wasn’t open to that. 

What I love about being an entrepreneur and working in this way is the framework of listening. There’s something in, at least in my coach training, that we learned that I think is the most valuable framework for listening and getting feedback from people is to ask them for that feedback. The framework that I learned was essentially not the compliment sandwich. I know everyone talks about the compliment sandwich. You say a nice thing, give the real juice, and then say some other nice thing. 

Do you see that coming miles away now?  

Yes, you’ll see it. I like this framework because it puts both people on the same side as opposed to me saying, “Here’s the work and what do you think about it?” It’s asking, “You took this class, you did this exercise, what worked well for you?” “What insights did you get?” “What stood out to you that you’re going to take with you as a positive outcome or a positive insight?” 

Then, “What would make it even better?” I like the wording of that question because if you’ve done facilitation training, it puts you in the chairs facing the same way. You’re both working on it, and you’re both aligned. It’s asking them to almost be in a seat right next to you and say, “We’re both working on this.” What would make it even better? It invites people into the process of creating your course or whatever, but that is going to benefit them and, hopefully, many other people. 

The psychology behind that, too, is nice because your students want to please you and they want to be on the same page or the same team. Part of our growth as teachers is finding out what didn’t work. Where could we have done better? It’s very hard for people to give negative feedback to someone to their face, especially in this student-teacher context that we’re talking about. What would make it even better is that it allows collaboration, and we can also learn where we fail.

The Importance Of Collaboration In Transformation

I’m looking at the clock. This is a good one. It’s a long one. I do it differently every time, but I’m going to make a statement, and I’d love for you to model you on a debate or something. Are you for or against a statement or why? All transformation is collaborative. True or false, go.

Transformation is inherently collaborative. Our relationship with the world and with others shapes the way we grow and change.

I’ll say, true. I see no other way than that, especially if you agree with this statement. The only truly monogamous relationship we have is the relationship between our soul and our body because that’s the only thing that’s going to be with you from birth until death. Our experience of the world is, by nature, collaborative. It’s coming into our conscious mind through our nervous system, through our body’s relationship with space, and all of the influences. I could not see transformation as something that could happen without a relationship.

The only truly monogamous relationship we have is between our soul and our body—together from birth until death. Everything else is collaborative.

Yes, If people are looking to collaborate with you as a student or in any other way, where is the best place for people to find you? Again, we’ll put all this in the show notes. 

The easiest place to find me is my website. It’s DominiAnne.com. You can find contact pages and on-demand videos, and depending on how far you want to dig in this massive labyrinth of a website that I’ve built over the years, you can find out a lot there. Also, on Instagram, I’m @Domini_Anne. My creative design pages at this point are simply not active for obvious reasons but Domini_Anne is l where I’m putting myself out on social media. 

I’ll put a plug-in for your newsletter. I actively unsubscribe from everything because it’s just a mess in my updates folder but I love getting your newsletter, and I recommend everybody give it a shot because it’s great stories. Even if you’re not at all interested in gyrotonics or anything we’ve talked about, they’re just fun stories. 

That’s what I love about a few newsletters that I subscribed to, and that’s pretty much the thread through all of them. Everybody should go out and find the website and sign up for the newsletter. We’ll close this for now, but I suspect that we will have more to talk about, Domini. Thank you very much for your time and this great connected conversation. 

You’re welcome, Marc. Thanks, it’s a great way to start our day. 

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About Domini Anne

Domini Anne is a multi-disciplinary movement educator, dedicated to helping people fully inhabit their bodies. Through her unique approach, she supports an aging population in maintaining vitality, mobility, and a pain-free existence. With a background as a former Gyrotonic Master trainer, Domini now identifies as a “Movement Agnostic,” educating trainers from diverse backgrounds on proprioceptive training, movement principles, and embodied anatomy. Her teacher training program, Proprio-Synthesis, guides instructors in honing their skills, cueing effectively and intuitively tailoring their approaches to meet clients’ needs. Fascinated by the human body, Domini feels fortunate to focus her career on studying and exploring its capacity for expression.li